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Coded the 45 pistol
2013-07-22, 11:47 PM,
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RE: Coded the 45 pistol
Eh, I wouldnt be too surprised with running out of ammo too quickly with only 4 magazines. My first computer shooter (delta force: blackhawk down) had the same amount of ammo, and I marveled at the balance (snipers were lethal with those things!). I agree with everything you say for the pistols.

In regards to damage compared to rifles, you might be interested in the TKOF (taylor knock out factor). Most games use the TKOF chart for their weapon damage (and then game developers nerf things for "game balance", lol), and I found it pretty fascinating. This is one of the reasons why SWAT/HRT sometimes uses pistol caliber SMGs, for their raw takedown power. However, with the increasing usage of body armor, rifles are more common for their AP capability (though you could always have AP rounds in a SMG). ACR doesn't correctly have the 9mm from the MP5 or Pistol being that powerful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_KO_Factor
Btw, take a look at the .38 Special. =)

In regards to your ideas on changing the damage and recoil, I think I'm already satisfied with the current recoil in "hardcore" mode. I remember Ruler501 sent me a beta test of the original "simulation recoil", and that was some pretty hard stuff. I feel like Ruler toned it down for "hardcore" mode now, which made things more manageable.

I do NOT suggest changing the fire groups. The 3-round burst trigger group was a complete flop. The whole thing about how soldiers would waste less ammunition clearly wasn't thought out by an infantryman that's trying to suppress the enemy. It is literally like the whole M1 Garand's plink when dry thing. Also, this game isn't a mil-sim shooter, so I dont think the firegroups matter. In reality, I've heard nothing but bad things about the burst trigger groups, which is why the Mk. 12 SPR uses the old M16A1's trigger group. The whole burst trigger group thing was conceived because of the whole "double tap" doctrine (once to drop them, the second to stop him and make him cry for his mama), but the basic idea to the complete overhaul of "hardcore" mode was to encourage players to fire in semiauto and controlled bursts, not like CoD's spray and pray.

Thanks for reading, as always. ^_^ And sorry for the delay! Freaking computer's dying on me.

DSO
Windows 8 fanboy =D
"Not dead, can't quit"
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Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-20, 04:04 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-20, 11:09 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-21, 12:03 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-07-21, 12:36 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by -{ET}-xdEpicZombie - 2013-07-21, 06:00 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-21, 10:19 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-21, 11:06 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-07-21, 04:05 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-21, 08:18 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-21, 08:45 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-21, 09:22 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-21, 09:54 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-21, 11:31 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-22, 08:40 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-22, 09:08 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-22, 09:56 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-22, 11:47 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-23, 01:35 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-07-23, 10:21 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-07-24, 10:08 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-07-24, 11:22 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-03, 10:47 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-03, 11:40 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-04, 12:06 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by {KE}bluwarguy - 2013-08-04, 10:11 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-04, 12:39 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by -{ET}-xdEpicZombie - 2013-08-04, 02:24 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by {KE}bluwarguy - 2013-08-04, 03:02 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-04, 04:45 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-04, 08:07 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-04, 11:34 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-05, 01:22 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-05, 11:36 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-05, 12:02 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-05, 03:01 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-05, 09:31 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-06, 01:45 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-06, 01:32 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-06, 02:52 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-08-07, 08:57 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-08-07, 09:11 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by forumlurker007 - 2013-10-29, 12:47 AM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by ruler501 - 2013-10-29, 03:02 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by dm.mossberg590a1 - 2013-10-29, 03:28 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by DeltaStrikeOp - 2013-10-29, 06:55 PM
RE: Coded the 45 pistol - by forumlurker007 - 2013-10-29, 10:07 PM

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